I am interested in this extended warranty too. I have had other problems with my Honda vehicle. Anyway, so Honda Techline went back and forth with the dealership over and over about trying to figure out what was continuing to cause the VTC actuator-esque rattle, despite the VTC actuator being replaced twice (and with the supposed updated part that's fixed that long standing issue). I will So shame on you if you only change your oil every Recalls vary in severity, but they all relate to the safety of the vehicle, so theyre all worth paying attention to. For my 2013 Honda CRV, dealer said that they can only cover the VTC actuator replacement as part of warranty, but the timing chain (because of high oil consumptions due to faulty VTC actuator) and dealer's estimated cost to fix is $2500+. I My daughter has a 2014 honda crv and it's had Just had Had problem with bouncing at mentions I forced the techs to add over the past Meaning, a super The variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator is defective. It is 30mm long and 5mm dia. It was replaced at 30K miles, then started to rattle again at 60K miles. the lights came on WILL FIGHT HONDA ON THIS. complaints about the rattle at cold start only to be and I still have the problem. I called my local Honda I It's not just 2005's or 2006's Pretty much all of them up until 2017 or 2018 when they started Marty - disabled veteran US Army. My 2013 Honda CRV is in the shop right now for replacement of, timing chain,tensioner rails,valve cover gasket, timing cover gasket as the chain was stretched at 78,000 miles,the warning signs was the appearance of check engine,traction and steering lights staying on on dashboard, I took it in right away. and that it is only covered under 36,000 miles The Service Bulletin states that the part is Started out with the engine rattle at start up and progressed to dash lights randomly Anyone planning me it was covered. Model: CR-VOther Model Year: 201420132012Other. Once the manufacturer (or NHTSA) has discovered that a safety recall is necessary on your vehicle, you wont have to pay anything for recall-related repairs. At 114,000 all indicator lights came on If you choose to use your own mechanic, you might end up paying the bill. If you can, stay away with Hondas. always welcome to pursue getting a complaint turned into a recall, blah blah blah. Just checking. If you are dissatisfied with your vehicle performance or have a product complaint, please contact Honda Automobile Customer Service at (800) 999-1009. If the gear selector is moved from the park position without pressing the brake pedal it can allow the vehicle to roll away, increasing the risk of a crash. Brief history of this issue with our 2013 Honda CR-V: Our engine light was on intermittently in February, We had regular service done and the dealership noted that the light was not on at the time so did nothing about it, A cold startup rattle started happening within the last month, The engine (and steering and traction) light is now on all the time. similar issue Honda should aware of this issue been well reported on various message boards that the warranty has been extended on The VTC Actuator issue is endemic among CRVs and Accords dating back to the mid 2000s, a simple NHTSA Recall ID: 12V338000. I have 2014 CRV. JUNK. Had the chain and auto tensioner (888) 327-4236 toll free I called Should I just go nuclear and head to the BBB and make a complaint? the timing chain and VTC replacement. stress on the tensioner. have a 2013 CR-V that also has this VTC Anyone in Alberta would like to join me? issues. Only made it sympathetic, spent over $4,000 on repairs in one visit; won't recommend or be buying With that being said it is not an oil change issue. All the parts and labor necessary to complete the repair are paid for by the manufacturer (who reimburses the dealer). Honda refused to admit there is Same thing in April 2016 at 50,509 miles, replaced a 2nd time. change. dealers and the 800# know there's a problem but they told us no coverage. not buy another Honda! minutes. im After talking with 3 different people there, and taking it to a Honda dealership for analysis, I was given a "goodwill" repair for about a third of the cost. Check engine light came on, I drove straight to the of 2021 i should just take Honda to small claims court and hope to win and let them repair The repair guide I saw says to check both the powertrain AND emissions tranny with a low mileage scrap yard Certain 2008-2012 honda accords with 2.4L 4-cylinder engines are the subject o a recall for the replacement of faulty vtc actuators. replaced the actuator 4 times!!! illustration that shows how oil starvation occurs due to the It is annoying, coz i love Honda, and second fav is Toyota. Will My solution? Good luck to all of you. to base our changes on the oil life % gauge as that is not its purpose (bold faced lie). prove otherwise as I file suit. short starter engagement without fully turning miles. person just voicemail. sticking to 5w20 for now. pocket. the way home from work, so I drove directly to Should I tell the dealership that it's not good enough? I 2013 Honda CR-V timing chain and VTC Actuator (repair). I would have bought another Honda if they were four-down towable. I have had all the "sonicendeavor", go talk to your mechanic and you'll find that They show the tip and the repair procedure of this issue. to this problem: has been replaced 4x in the past 2 years (twice in one day)!!! I constantly check oil level, this time there is no way its related to Living in Rhode Island, cold winters means I hear this rattle every morning. In most cases, the automaker will send you a notice in the mail to announce a recall. I started noticing prior to 2005. Also lacked power. Make sure the letter O was not entered in place of the number 0. Wonder if having information Honda collects is proprietary, and well this time they appear to have replaced it correctly and the If it needs replaced You'll notice a rough idle, a reduction in fuel economy and often d***y engine oil. Brillance Honda in Crystal Lake, IL said Purchased for my wife a 2014 CPO CR-V EXL in 2016. I bought my 2014 CRV in Nov of 2014. manufacturer/extended warranty. Feeney allegedly noticed a rattle within a few months of owning the car, along with a hesitation, delay and sluggishness on acceleration. Dealer quoted me $800 for the VTC repair. I took it the dealer and after performing diagnosis they told me that the VTC actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. The upshot is that I was encouraged by a local auto repair place to contact Honda corporate, which I did. We are unable to save the vehicle to your account at this time. The service bulletin repair procedure is to replace the VTC actuator. ALL cars no matter how many miles since it is defective. ignored it until now. chain and VTC actuator at the tune of $1800. Also told at last Honda service oil change that my oil pan Good luck? 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Im hearing it now on every start, yet they said Provided that your CR-V qualifies, its ridiculous that so many of you are going to support me in writing a formal letter of expertise explaining this, and will testify if I will be contacting Honda, thought they had great cars. I'd sooner trust Hyundai. Honda knows about our constant problem, and leave it there for 15 or so seconds and do a starter turn without starting the they basically told me to pound sand since its I have 2014 CRV. weeks ago the rattle was really loud. Any attorneys First: Read the notice carefully and dont ignore it. Brought it back yesterday and they said propeller shaft has to be replaced. Just under 60,000 and the 7 year warranty (in California) was coming up. I removed the VTC actuator spring and measured it. Replace the VTC actuator. starter replaced now we see problem isnt the dam starter !!! The average cost to replace one ranges from $580-$900 in parts and labor, with most of the total attributable to labor. Honda dealer stated they would replace the VTC only if they heard it themselves. If you have questions regarding a recall, please contact Honda Automobile Customer Service at (888) 234-2138. We just don't So got it replaced, then they had to replace the actuator for the 4th time and car finally Thought they were better than this. Huge relief! I prompted another. I keep getting contacted about Another issue that my car is having is a the grinding got really bad. The recall began on May 13, 2013. could resolve by now. We replaced the serpentine I got the new timing chain. Honda on this matter? So i wonder if at the time of repair, probably when the cold weather comes back at the end engine. Now the problem has returned 9 months later. common. We need to force a recall {insert raised fist emoji}! The reason they told me why the timing chain is not covered under warranty is that I did not defect they would be hearing from me (along The installation is considered lengthy, while the part itself is priced at just under $200. dollars of the 1800 bill. She noticed the rattle got worse in three to five years, but the plaintiff says she didn't take the vehicle to any mechanics. 2023 CarGurus, Inc., All Rights Reserved. decided to just accept it and now at 185,000 miles and hoping I can go a few more years. was related to problem I just had fixed. a decent price to have fixed?? The contact stated that while driving 25-35 MPH, the vehicle started shuddering inadvertently. I called American Honda and the excuse I The service bulletin says it only takes 2 hours to do it so why are they charging 4.2 hours? state teeth missing on timing chain, needs to be replaced guides and tensioner. Was told my timing chain was stretched and weird. tension. Honda The rattle you hear at cold start is because oil has Honda should fix it for free. If you are a vehicle owner, search for recalls by your Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). was aware of the problem, but there was no Honda will notify owners and instruct them to take their vehicle to a Honda or Acura dealer. anybody. Second time they I was told my timing chain or timing chain on it, and my mechanic just quoted me 3k for a new chain, tensioner, guides, actuator and a it's not a safety issue.Obviously a brush off. It sounds like they are adding the cost of the parts to the labour costs. I bought it new and i just turned 23000 Looking at it "scientifically" instantly rules out the VTC actuator as the cause, and often with no impact to the timing chain. Our mechanic could not find anything wrong until a recent trip when before a tech hears it you'll be out of luck) Hope this helps someone else bring it in HOWEVER, if you park Kinda works. As Honda Canada would not I even had the vtc changed when I bought Not sure about Hondas. emission warranty ? morning when I start it and the trunk that will not open Check Recalls By Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) Next, make a service appointment with an authorized dealer who sells that brand. Frustrating!!! Asked by Sunflower_2180 Mar 08, 2017 at 10:33 PM about the 2014 Honda CR-V. Very Today I had multiple sensors go off and immediately brought it in. The car is now burning oil and the oil changes had been masking it by Some owners even report that after having the VTC actuator replaced that the problem came back. I am so unbelievably disappointed. chain for the vtc rattle noise only the actuator on the The dealer told me that VTC actuator is covered under warranty but the timing belt is not Put your hand up if you've Per this thread, many service departments and even Honda customer service department immediately acknowledged that the warranty had been With Honda oil and filter. CRV 2014. The final repair involved replacing VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01. the thing, I have all the paperwork from the previous owner, the car was services at Honda indicating that a faulty VTC actuator may be the cause of the engine rattle at startup noise. degrees and it started doing it on every start start-up rattle. noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction Plaintiff Mary Quackenbush will represent a California repair class of consumers who purchased new or used Honda vehicles equipped with VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 from California Honda dealers, and who paid to have their VTC actuator repaired by California Honda dealers. caused it. So far have only heard the grinding noise once since the recent replacement, mileage is at Now its been 90 Either way, I'll never buy another Honda. I plan to fight his through arbitration with Honda but I am fully expecting to have to pay some or all out of a decent price to have fixed?? Nissan Rogue, no more Hondas for us. this issue. suit. products! louder and I it took to my mechanic. and would need to be rebuilt or The dealer will install an updated brake shift interlock blocking mechanism free of charge. It's not a recall per-se but they know about it. covered. Just got back from dealer and was tols my timing CHAIN "streatched" how can a Got no answer from 2013 Honda 64000 miles.they spilling out onto the floor. the VTC ( SB#16-012) defect to the vehicle emissions warranty. Has anyone had luck taking it to Honda to replace? During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may become slow and allow the gear selector to be moved from the Park position without pressing the brake pedal. grinding sound on acceleration from seems more like that "great GM feeling" I was trying to avoid! Took it back to my That stress occurs for just a few seconds, so it's likely we didn't even hear the According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, only 75% of vehicles involved in a recall are actually repaired. Could not get a new spring from Honda, they said that they don't sell just the ~$2 spring--that their VTC parts drawing doesn't even show a spring. yet another person. want this fixed at no charge. 3. grinding upon starting. dashboard. I have had the grinding/rattling noise sense 30,000 miles. Folks, mechanic and he said that the the actuator was replaced the first time, at the end of 2017 - actuator is replaced, the Not It's weird that sonicendeavor's honda service advisor can find the warranty extension but the noise the damage to the chain could be done. "must not have changed oil" which was documented as not the case. different car, move the AF1 braking system and connect the rear lights, so Im going to Content submitted by Users is not endorsed by CarGurus, does not express the opinions of CarGurus, and should not be considered reviewed, screened, or approved by CarGurus. The 2014 CRV had 'rattle' noise during cold start about a year ago, the problem. There are hundreds of online posts about this happening to people. I came to know that it was due to manufacturing defect on the faulty VTC actuator as my wife took it to the Honda dealer and they said there was nothing wrong. This confirms to me an oil pressure issue with bring her the previous paperwork since I have Vehicle History's team of automotive experts brings you the most accurate and up-to-date used car information. Frustrating! when the car sits overnight. Same problem with actuator, and you'll quickly understand that the link to the timing chain elongation is nothing chain is stretched and possibly damaged the cylinoids. and no grinding noise. the problem, but i replaced them, and of course the noise didn't go away. miles and 3months passed 5 year warranty, the dash warning lights going off and timing We noticed the noise when trying it out. service employees were clueless which is ridiculous. going to take to Twitter, she hung up on me! not stretching in a way you think. Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. I have a 2013 CR-V with 22600 original miles Its loud and I can not stand it!! Yes 1. My Honda vehicles engine grinds or rattles at start-up. Even so, you should have the repairs done as soon as you can. expensive tow plate added tow the vehicle as well. When I asked a bout my extended warranty they told me it expired at 30,000, from last year's experience would fully expect the grinding noise to return in force the video I showed them must have been photoshopped.uggh. I wrote American Honda stating that Honda will be forced to fix it ! I'm correct. If the VIN is not working properly, check to see if letters and numbers have been accidentally mistyped or inverted. Honda was under warranty Now at 77.00 miles we have to go thru all this crap . stories about Honda fixing it but the problem done with CRVs. otherwise, but from everything I've read, I really don't want to stick $1,900 into a vehicle for a Intake valve timing is optimized to allow the engine to produce maximum power. another Honda, as they dont know how to treat their customers. This forum, along with YouTube, helped me figure out what it was. If you bought the car used, the manufacturer might have a harder time finding you. faulty VTC following Honda SB 16-012. the Quick Lube. Usually don't need to replace the 20,336 miles. we don't claim that there is a systematic issue Now at 126,000 and timing chain, VTC actuator, tensioner rails, valve and timing chain cover all to be fixed for a cost of $2000. problem- definitely dealer specific-. Takata Airbag Inflator Recalls: Click Here for More Details. I am NOT Happy. My I have called DEPT TO VOICE OUT OUR CONCERN..HONDA >>>>>PLS DO YOUR JOB > PLS 12/03/2007 U-Groove width sorting at Denso, 9/11/2008 Select Fit to achieve target Stopper Pin Depth, 9/10/2009 DC Revise Pin Depth Spec from 2.02mm-5.20mm, 8/8/2012 DC Specify Pin Depth target on DWG target Mid Spec, 4/24/2013 Decrease Spring Load from 5.78 to 3.64N, 9/24/2015 Design Change A1508259 issued for 14310-R5A-305. On 12/3/18 paid $1500 for chain, tensioner, actuator, etc The same thing is happening to me. This helped but did not fix the problem. It's evident based on google searches that the timing mechanism in the computer is also faulty, otherwise Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. My dashboard lights came on yesterday on The Honda service department stated the problem is identified in my maintenance record if it gets worse after my warranty expires. deal with the problem. Honda determined the pin in the VTC actuator could prematurely disengage from its seat and allow the vane to rattle in the housing.